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| А ЛинКр из каких соображений вдруг появились? Ревизия опыта РЯВ!? |
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Вот их ТТХ. У них пояс толще чем у современных им английским ЛК:
Измаил, Российская Империя Линейный Крейсер laid down 1912
Displacement:
27 632 t light; 29 709 t standard; 31 446 t normal; 32 836 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(723,73 ft / 721,78 ft) x 90,22 ft x (28,22 / 29,24 ft)
(220,59 m / 220,00 m) x 27,50 m x (8,60 / 8,91 m)
Armament:
8 - 14,02" / 356 mm 52,0 cal guns - 1 649,06lbs / 748,00kg shells, 180 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
Main guns limited to end-on fire
20 - 4,72" / 120 mm 50,0 cal guns - 55,82lbs / 25,32kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
10 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 30,0 cal guns - 1,42lbs / 0,64kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
4 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
Weight of broadside 14 364 lbs / 6 515 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 492,13 ft / 150,00 m 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
Ends: 2,95" / 75 mm 98,43 ft / 30,00 m 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
131,23 ft / 40,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5,12" / 130 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
Main Belt covers 105% of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,77" / 45 mm 492,13 ft / 150,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12,0" / 305 mm 5,98" / 152 mm 10,0" / 254 mm
2nd: 1,85" / 47 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,85" / 47 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck: 2,95" / 75 mm For and Aft decks
Forecastle: 2,95" / 75 mm Quarter deck: 2,95" / 75 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 12,01" / 305 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 86 884 shp / 64 815 Kw = 27,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 127 tons (50% coal)
Complement:
1 179 - 1 534
Cost:
£2,864 million / $11,455 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 3 196 tons, 10,2%
Armour: 9 703 tons, 30,9%
- Belts: 3 672 tons, 11,7%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 847 tons, 2,7%
- Armament: 2 307 tons, 7,3%
- Armour Deck: 2 619 tons, 8,3%
- Conning Tower: 258 tons, 0,8%
Machinery: 3 629 tons, 11,5%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 105 tons, 35,3%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 814 tons, 12,1%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0%
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
37 043 lbs / 16 802 Kg = 26,9 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 5,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,00
Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 18,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,12
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,19
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,599 / 0,604
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 4,00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00%, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Aft deck: 30,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m
- Average freeboard: 20,90 ft / 6,37 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,3%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157,6%
Waterplane Area: 47 584 Square feet or 4 421 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 187 lbs/sq ft or 914 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,15
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
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| Также было бы очень интересно узнать не только подробные ТТХ, но и конкретное назначение этих кораблей. Неужели, действительно, как утверждает Vova7, они предназначены для борьбы с “Инвинсиблами”? |
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Я не говорил что они предназначались против Иблов, я говорил что Князи их не слабее. Основная их цель - истребление торговли.
Вот ТТХ:
Измаил, Российская Империя Линейный Крейсер laid down 1912
Displacement:
27 632 t light; 29 709 t standard; 31 446 t normal; 32 836 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(723,73 ft / 721,78 ft) x 90,22 ft x (28,22 / 29,24 ft)
(220,59 m / 220,00 m) x 27,50 m x (8,60 / 8,91 m)
Armament:
8 - 14,02" / 356 mm 52,0 cal guns - 1 649,06lbs / 748,00kg shells, 180 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
Main guns limited to end-on fire
20 - 4,72" / 120 mm 50,0 cal guns - 55,82lbs / 25,32kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
10 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 30,0 cal guns - 1,42lbs / 0,64kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
4 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
Weight of broadside 14 364 lbs / 6 515 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 492,13 ft / 150,00 m 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
Ends: 2,95" / 75 mm 98,43 ft / 30,00 m 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
131,23 ft / 40,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5,12" / 130 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
Main Belt covers 105% of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,77" / 45 mm 492,13 ft / 150,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12,0" / 305 mm 5,98" / 152 mm 10,0" / 254 mm
2nd: 1,85" / 47 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 1,85" / 47 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck: 2,95" / 75 mm For and Aft decks
Forecastle: 2,95" / 75 mm Quarter deck: 2,95" / 75 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 12,01" / 305 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 86 884 shp / 64 815 Kw = 27,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 127 tons (50% coal)
Complement:
1 179 - 1 534
Cost:
£2,864 million / $11,455 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 3 196 tons, 10,2%
Armour: 9 703 tons, 30,9%
- Belts: 3 672 tons, 11,7%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 847 tons, 2,7%
- Armament: 2 307 tons, 7,3%
- Armour Deck: 2 619 tons, 8,3%
- Conning Tower: 258 tons, 0,8%
Machinery: 3 629 tons, 11,5%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 105 tons, 35,3%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 814 tons, 12,1%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0%
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
37 043 lbs / 16 802 Kg = 26,9 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 5,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,00
Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 18,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,12
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,19
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,599 / 0,604
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 4,00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00%, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Aft deck: 30,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m
- Average freeboard: 20,90 ft / 6,37 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,3%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157,6%
Waterplane Area: 47 584 Square feet or 4 421 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 187 lbs/sq ft or 914 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,15
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
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| Почему одинаковые корабли в одном случае называются ЛК, а в другом ЛинКр? |
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Вот ТТХ Императоров:
Император, Российская Империя Линкор laid down 1909
Displacement:
23 120 t light; 24 417 t standard; 25 730 t normal; 26 779 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(594,75 ft / 593,83 ft) x 88,25 ft x (28,54 / 29,50 ft)
(181,28 m / 181,00 m) x 26,90 m x (8,70 / 8,99 m)
Armament:
8 - 14,02" / 356 mm 52,0 cal guns - 1 470,00lbs / 666,78kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
Main guns limited to end-on fire
16 - 4,72" / 120 mm 50,0 cal guns - 55,82lbs / 25,32kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model
16 x Single mounts on sides amidships
4 raised mounts
2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 30,0 cal guns - 1,42lbs / 0,64kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
4 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 13,63lbs / 6,18kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
Weight of broadside 12 710 lbs / 5 765 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 442,91 ft / 135,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: 2,95" / 75 mm 98,43 ft / 30,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
52,49 ft / 16,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5,98" / 152 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
Main Belt covers 115% of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,46" / 37 mm 459,32 ft / 140,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 12,0" / 305 mm 5,98" / 152 mm 12,0" / 305 mm
2nd: 4,92" / 125 mm 2,95" / 75 mm -
- Protected deck - single deck: 4,02" / 102 mm For and Aft decks
Forecastle: 2,95" / 75 mm Quarter deck: 2,48" / 63 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 12,01" / 305 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 37 650 shp / 28 087 Kw = 22,00 kts
Range 4 500nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 362 tons (50% coal)
Complement:
1 015 - 1 320
Cost:
£2,378 million / $9,512 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 3 010 tons, 11,7%
Armour: 9 730 tons, 37,8%
- Belts: 3 699 tons, 14,4%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 650 tons, 2,5%
- Armament: 2 503 tons, 9,7%
- Armour Deck: 2 652 tons, 10,3%
- Conning Tower: 225 tons, 0,9%
Machinery: 1 793 tons, 7,0%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 588 tons, 33,4%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 609 tons, 10,1%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0%
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
34 982 lbs / 15 868 Kg = 25,4 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 5,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 4,5 ft / 1,4 m
Roll period: 17,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,47
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,602 / 0,606
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,73 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,37 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 2,00 degrees
Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Aft deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 19,95 ft / 6,08 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,4%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141,9%
Waterplane Area: 38 402 Square feet or 3 568 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 183 lbs/sq ft or 896 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,59
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
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А можно примеры?
для выполнения этого закона? 
Так по опыту той же РЯВ, для этого достаточно максимум 120-мм орудий. 
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